Oh, why do I need a special EA/BPM tool? I am managing my apps in a spreadsheet just fine.
That is one of the misconceptions that I have heard over the last twenty-something years of me helping clients to stand up practices and increase their EA/BPM maturity. And there are tons more of those …
Well, our first guest doesn’t need an introduction since he has been on the show already: Caspar Jans. But for those of you who don’t know him, he is not only working in the BPM space for decades but is also the co-host of the BPM360 Podcast, being recognized as a Top 50 voice in operational excellence by the PEX / Process Excellence Network in 2023, and he writes a newsletter on LinkedIn.
Our second guest is Russell Gomersall, who is the other co-host of the BPM360 Podcast and is a Senior Partner at bpExperts GmbH. His expertise lies in developing and applying the BusinessFlows-MetamodeI, bpExperts proprietary method for process-centric business transformations, and leading the TechLab, their competence center for technology-driven process optimization. Russell also act as the Chief Cheerleader and Value Owner of Passion, one of his core values, and fosters a culture of enthusiasm, engagement, and collaboration among bpExpert’s team and customers.
In this episode of the podcast we are talking about (and I am not sure if we used all of the misconceptions below, but so be it):
- Russell’s and Caspar’s backgrounds
- Architecture Usage
- BPM is just for nerds / has no real-life application
- EA is just something for IT. Nobody needs that – a spreadsheet/CMDB/… will do
- BPM is just process modeling. (Alternatively) BPM is just process documentation after the fact and the real people have implemented a running software
- Projects
- BPM is just a project
- What is all the fuzz about this stuff?
- Who needs to model? All I have to do is use my Process Mining to document my processes
- This whole documentation thing just creates effort and cost. We are faster and cheaper if we don’t do it. Good software needs no documentation! (Alternatively) We are Agile!
- Why do you force me to create all of this stuff? I don’t want to do this (create diagrams, feed a database, etc.) – I am agile!
- Process diagrams are just boxes and arrows. Why do these nerds make so much noise around notations and frameworks?
- How to use the tools / the discipline
- If I implement SAP, I can just use the SAP scope items and related BPMN
- Documenting process ‘properly’ in the context of an IT project doesn’t make sense because nobody requires the (process)documentation afterwards
- I don’t need a process tool for my regulatory compliance and risk management. I have a dedicated app for this
- BPM is only for large organizations
- A process without a (BPMN) model isn’t a process.
- BPMN is better than EPC
- Skills
- Why so much fuzz around an implementation project? It is just a drawing tool – give me the damn licenses and I am good
- BPM requires an advanced degree to involve yourself in
Caspar is easy to reach on LinkedIn and also has a website that contains his writings (and his newsletter “Process Extraordinaire Weekly” on LinkedIn here). Russel can be found on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/russellgomersall/.
You can find their podcast BPM360 wherever you get your podcasts or on their website: https://www.bpm360podcast.com/.
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Additional information
- Caspar has been a guest before and he also has a “Meet the Maker” profile on What’s Your Baseline?
Credits
Music by Jeremy Voltz, www.jeremyvoltzmusic.com
- CP1 (Welcome)
- Basement Apartment (Interlude 1)
- Wurly (Interlude 2)
- South Wing (Outro)
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